Comments on: Martin Turner: “Andy Powell Can F*ck Off!”

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By: Ed

Ed — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 20:46:28 +0000

I agree entirely with both Andy and The Pilgrim’s comments. Both bands are great in their own ways, but at the end of the day they’re both bands in their own right who just perform wishbone ash songs as a bonus.

By: andy

andy — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:02:02 +0000

‘the pilgrim’-your comments are spot-on.there is room for both,although i much prefer MTWA for several reasons but at the end of the day they are both 1 original + 3 blokes.

By: the pilgrim

the pilgrim — Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:09:35 +0000

Nigel Edmonds – what is this ‘real deal’ stuff all about? Both bands have only one original member who was actually involved in Wishbone Ash. They are both surrounded by sidemen who have had no involvement with being part of Wishbone Ash – apart from these legacy bands. So what does this stupid bloody term mean? If MTWA are a WA tribute band then so are APWA because the composition is the same – one ‘real deal’ guy and three add-ons.

Take Powell’s band. Since 1996 he has had at least two bassists, three drummers, four second guitarists etc. Each version of APWA has sounded different depending upon who was singing – be it Kishman, Birch, Tayce or Powell himself. The albums have all sounded different due to the different make-up of his bands. With such a solo-led project of constantly changing sidemen this is to be expected, but for heaven’s sake don’t try and pretend this is some kind of band in continuity. It isn’t – it’s a leader of a project with constantly changing support musicians (some of whom stick around a little longer than others).

The statement that he has led this band for 40 years must the single most bloody unbelievably stupid statement one could make. For the first 10 years he led nothing. It was either Martin, Ted or Laurie who were leading. They were singing and writing. Apart from Valediction and part of Ballad of the Beacon I can hardly think of anything AP sang on (except live on Bad Weather Blues). During the post MT years he did a bit with Laurie, then got Spam in then snapped Miles Copeland’s hand off when the reunion came about. Then it was Martin and Ted again. Then it was a mixture of Martin and Tony Kishman. Then it was Mark Birch and so on.

Does anybody see any continuity here? The only common thread is in the constant chopping and changing. Now APWA is more settled. It only changes drummers every few years instead of months. It only changes 2nd guitarists in similar fashion. Oh and miracle of miracles – there has been a constant bass sideman for over a decade. Well, that’s some kind of progress I suppose – some kind of continuity.

Martin’s band has also changed in similar fashion, but because he sings and leads the changes have been less noticeable.

Go and see both. They each have their strengths and weaknesses. But please accept that NEITHER is the real band anymore. Only a child would make such a statement. You might want to call one or other the ‘real deal’ – but neither is the Real Thing!!!

By: TONEALONE

TONEALONE — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:40:30 +0000

AP/MT either way its such a pity,
lifes too short for this continual retort and baiting sport
u can wish your life away trying to relive yesterday
better to strive to once more come alive…….
and like a phoenix rising /from the ashes reviving
like warriors on a pilgrimage…the king will come

By: Nigel Edmonds

Nigel Edmonds — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:47:58 +0000

So, Martin Turner didn’t want to be Andy Powell’s support band? In which case he’ll have to continue being a Wishbone Ash tribute band – not a patch on the real deal.

By: Johan Petur

Johan Petur — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:01:34 +0000

Wishbone Ash – In my mind – Is Martin Turner, Lauri Wisfield, Ted Turner, Andy Powel and Steve Upton.
I have been a very huge fan of WA – FOR ME i WOULD BE HAPPY IF WA” Would come togeter as a union – Only time will tell….

By: anastasia

anastasia — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:23:07 +0000

Andy and Martin prob lap up all the attention they get, it wudnt surprise me if it was all jst a ‘con-fight’ and theyre keeping the action going, while collecting the revenue from 2 bands. ( haha ?) yes Andy’s vox are goin down the drain but he tries to even it up with good musicians, I for one am sorry, I have heard Andy did throw Martin out of the band more than once, why? After all the infighting, why doesn;t Andy ask the other originals to appear with him on their farewell gig as equals? surely the occasion deserves parity between these 4 guys?

By: Toby

Toby — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:04:25 +0000

Sad, sad, Martin Turner! What a despicable quote in the media, shame on you! I have seen AP’s band live dozens and dozens of times, and have always had the chance to meet the band and converse with some true gentlemen. You, on the other hand, appear to hang your hat on negativity and black clouds, making your whole despicable life about minutia rather than music. If you are so talented after 40 years of resting on your rump, why don’t you produce something worthwhile instead of spending all your time bashing people who have actually EARNED a living playing music? Ahhh, your true colors have shown through this time. I hope KARMA comes back and bites you in the arse.

By: ray

ray — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:16:11 +0000

I think that either version of the band re-doing “Argus” was a stupid idea. I haven’t heard the Martin Turner version, so I can’t comment on them, but I have liked the new albums Powell’s version has done. So why not just continue to do new music? Doing songs from “Argus” live is one thing, like a band would do from any album, but to re-record the album is just plain silly.